“In 2009, Obama gave one to Stephen Hawking and Desmond…” — Pod Save America at 55:38
“In 2009, Obama gave one to Stephen Hawking and Desmond Tutu. In 2011, Obama gave one to Bob Gates and Yo-Yo Ma. What is this price? It's just a cool thing you can get. I do think it's fun that you can do them posthumously, which sort of means you can go all the way back. Why not? Joan of Arc. Joan of Arc. Yeah…”
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