“And again, it's just, it's the tone. And, you know, I…” — Pod Save America at 10:58
“And again, it's just, it's the tone. And, you know, I thought that now we and others have talked too much about the whole, made the whole point about like, Democrats just can't be the defenders of institutions. We got to reform institutions. I was like, all right, we've made our, we've set our piece on that. But then…”
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