“Just not living in a small town. It was really a classic.…” — SmartLess at 14:41
“Just not living in a small town. It was really a classic. And it was kind of like, let me go out east and strike gold in the same way that there's a Silicon Valley rush and the gold rush. I was like, oh, I'm going to go to New York. I'm going to get rich and famous. And that was a long time. That was 15 years ago.…”
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