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“founder. And I was like, oh, that's the way you do it. And…” — SmartLess at 15:24

“founder. And I was like, oh, that's the way you do it. And all these young people were like making so much money. And I was like, oh, I think I should be a tech guy. Right. Take technology, use your creativity, your insight, your savviness, and see where the two could intersect. But really the ultimate goal was to…”

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