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“So by Christmas of 2015, he was deeply in debt. His credit…” — True Crime Brewery at 1:23:57

“So by Christmas of 2015, he was deeply in debt. His credit cards were maxed out. There was no money in their bank. He had borrowed money from everybody who would be willing to lend him money, so he wasn't going to get any money from anybody to keep his gambling going. But Doris had life insurance policies that…”

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