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“more carefully around the gaming historians on the…” — Shane Plays Geek Talk at 42:42

“more carefully around the gaming historians on the internet, you will see many of them claiming that Tunnels and Trolls was the first true role-playing game. And Dungeons, I mean that other game, was a fancy miniatures game with a thin overlay of role-playing. Because there was no miniatures playing in Tunnels and…”

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