“We've been dealing with this since the Obama years. And I…” — Pod Save America at 25:55
“We've been dealing with this since the Obama years. And I know President Obama thought, well, we should prove that democracy can deliver. And if we deliver for people, for working people, then they'll, like Democrats, Joe Biden certainly had the same theory. And I've thought that would be true as well over the last…”
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