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“Democrats sound too much like politicians. And that is not…” — Pod Save America at 35:11

“Democrats sound too much like politicians. And that is not Kamala Harris herself. That is everyone. And also like 90% of Republicans too. Yeah, exactly. I mean, J.D. Vance sounds terrible. He's bad in these forums. The second issue is how we get people to hear what we're saying. And that's what we were failing…”

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