“Even if it is true, I think we should live as if it is…” — Pod Save America at 49:48
“Even if it is true, I think we should live as if it is not. We should do everything we can to fight back as if this does represent a real kind of of a real change. We have to figure out how to argue our way out of because I think anti-incumbency is very real in the largest driving factor. But I'm not suggesting you…”
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