“Liz Cheney is both smart, which I think she is, and…” — Pod Save America at 26:56
“Liz Cheney is both smart, which I think she is, and genuinely wants to stop Trump from becoming president again, which I think she does. How would this work? Is this a good idea? What could she be thinking here? It wouldn't work, John. No, I mean, look, I think this whole thing is a very fascinating intellectual…”
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