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“dumb guy. I mean, with respect. Malcolm's razor on this…” — Pod Save America at 42:34

“dumb guy. I mean, with respect. Malcolm's razor on this kind of stuff. Exactly. And a good sense of how to entertain people and a good sense of television and a good sense of how to rile people up. But I think beyond that, there's not a lot. Oh, there's no substance at all. I mean, there's no substance even when he's…”

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