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“And he's made himself believe the lie that he doesn't he…” — Pod Save America at 52:32

“And he's made himself believe the lie that he doesn't he doesn't think he failed in 2020. And so then this is revenge. Sure. But at the same time, I think that he believes a lie that they could do it again. Right. And also, look, Trump doesn't understand why people don't like him unless he doesn't like them first.…”

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