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“sort of rank him to that, right? Like we sort of assume…” — Pod Save America at 53:14

“sort of rank him to that, right? Like we sort of assume that we can actually... Sort of ascribe strategy. Exactly. Like he really, he's in a different, he's in a different dimension. I mean, he does not exist in this reality whatsoever. My last question on this is just, you know, you spent so much time not only with…”

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