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“Folks have equated it to cryptocurrency scammers where I…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 31:05

“Folks have equated it to cryptocurrency scammers where I feel personally slighted if someone, yeah, it's like, oh, it's just like a crypto hype. It's like, I'm literally getting value every day. But in any case, it's at all levels. So for me, it's changed any little thing you want to spike out that would take you…”

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