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“That's a good idea. You should come and help us with that.…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 49:54

“That's a good idea. You should come and help us with that. And they hooked me in. And so kind of that's the motto I'll tell people a lot of times when they give me, give me ideas for the conferences, I'll tell them the same thing, like good ideas require volunteer time to implement it. Like I'm not, you know, I'm not…”

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