“So I think that's the tradition now. I mean, you have to…” — Software Engineering Daily at 30:12
“So I think that's the tradition now. I mean, you have to have certain determination to do something. You know, going back to what you said, like, you know, maybe this is not the place to start. It's like, oh, I've never like, you know, done anything like this before. But if somebody was interested, you know, this…”
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