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“You can't get those things in Washington easily. What you…” — Cato Audio at 17:21

“You can't get those things in Washington easily. What you can do pretty easily is spend money. It's very easy to just kind of open the taps, and particularly if you're giving money to corporations. And so what we've gotten in terms of U.S. renewable energy policy is not something clean and elegant like a carbon tax.…”

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