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“Not just this kind of de-growth or environmentalist, but…” — Cato Audio at 13:39

“Not just this kind of de-growth or environmentalist, but they've joined hand in hand with giant petrochemical companies to oppose U.S. energy exports. I always look to giant petrochemical companies when I'm trying to imagine what the right thing to do is with respect to the environment. Travis, let's narrow down a…”

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