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“from cable news a bit, or at least not. I feel like a lot…” — Pod Save America at 32:49

“from cable news a bit, or at least not. I feel like a lot of politicians don't feel like they actually achieve something unless they have a cable news hit about their topic. And the reality is the viewership is going way down. People are spending more time on TikTok and social platforms. And yes, podcasts. Our friend…”

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