“You had people like Mattis. You had people like John…” — Pod Save America at 4:32
“You had people like Mattis. You had people like John Kelly. Not perfect guys, whatever, but they were sort of bulwarks. They sort of pushed back on him. And now it doesn't look like Donald Trump will have any checks on the White House, any checks on his worst impulses. And I think that's something that should be…”
0:00
1:08:44