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“And quite frankly, it allows them to make the candidate…” — Pod Save America at 54:44

“And quite frankly, it allows them to make the candidate into something that they're not. And I think we suffered from all those things, the National Brown stuff, the amount of money. Look, we had a ton of money on our side, too. So I'm not complaining about that. But the truth is, it would have been much better to…”

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