“I mean, it's kind of to make money, to help lenders make…” — Cato Audio at 58:59
“I mean, it's kind of to make money, to help lenders make money. But I really kind of saw them rise to the occasion in COVID when they were given a focus on your mission is helping keep people in their homes during a pandemic. And so I do credit them. Don't worry, there's plenty of probably criticism of them in the…”
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