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“That's a great question. I thought it might with the…” — Cato Audio at 1:12:49

“That's a great question. I thought it might with the Matthew Whitaker incident, and it felt like we came close, but then just as usual, people got distracted and moved on to the next thing. I think you would really have to see perhaps even more aggressive use of this loophole, especially in the middle of a presidency…”

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