“And the reason all of these companies are out here saying…” — The Vergecast at 9:37
“And the reason all of these companies are out here saying we're moving past the apps for a model, we want to do the other things is because Google and Apple won. And all of these companies have spent a generation living under that, right? Giving up 30%, not being able to do certain things because they don't follow…”
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