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“Exactly. He didn't deny it. He was just a little cagey…” — The Vergecast at 10:27

“Exactly. He didn't deny it. He was just a little cagey, but it was clear to everyone in the room, I think, that that is what they're doing. And it's also like, you know, yeah, the level of control seems pretty similar. You know, right now they're only launching with eight or so apps. I asked him a lot about what the…”

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