“And it's just so much else. It's like so icky about it…” — The Vergecast at 31:10
“And it's just so much else. It's like so icky about it that I think way outweighs the what makes them so good. So it's really tricky in that very interesting products, but I think it's always going to be almost impossible for these companies to overcome these privacy hurdles unless they”
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