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“You need a little planning. You need a little…” — Pod Save America at 1:11:16

“You need a little planning. You need a little thoughtfulness, a little bit of working ahead to try to get people into the place where they can have an impact by giving them some ideas and trusting them to do the right thing to some degree. So you don't just like storm into government buildings with a bunch of like 19…”

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