“even though we think of him now as a two-term president.…” — Pod Save America at 1:15:16
“even though we think of him now as a two-term president. He is someone who ran against the traditional politics of Washington, against Hillary Clinton, by the way. And Donald Trump, you're right. He was like the consummate outsider. He was someone who was seen as so outside the system that people actually mocked it.…”
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