“Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, we went from just…” — CyberWire Daily at 17:12
“Yeah, you're absolutely right. I mean, we went from just locking up the files and saying, if you want the key, please send us some money to both locking up and exfiltrating files. And now plenty of groups don't even bother to lock up the files. All they want to do is exfiltrate the files. And then they'll say, hey…”
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