“talk on this pod and talk about stuff. I don't love…” — Pod Save America at 1:22:54
“talk on this pod and talk about stuff. I don't love catastrophizing. I don't want to ever unnecessary alarm people, partly because I don't think that's good for everyone's system. And I also think that if everything is in an 11, then you can't differentiate what's really, what's the worst. If everything's 11…”
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