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“over Trump's first term and during the campaign, I didn't…” — Pod Save America at 1:24:38

“over Trump's first term and during the campaign, I didn't do that. And so if you're calling a candidate a fascist every day, and like you said, if it's at an 11 every day, then, you know, if everything's 11, nothing's 11. So we've tried to separate the signal from the ground noise. When he said, I'm going to seek a…”

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