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“You know what? I'm glad you brought that up, right? That's…” — Software Engineering Daily at 27:25

“You know what? I'm glad you brought that up, right? That's actually, you know, that's the thing that most organizations, most people I've talked with over time in this industry, they have friends of mine and other colleagues. And, you know, I've been to so many conferences and we've had this debate, you know, how…”

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