“Because the thing is, say I'm a developer. Now, security…” — Software Engineering Daily at 27:54
“Because the thing is, say I'm a developer. Now, security, you're telling me now I'm a security engineer besides being a software engineer. So not only do I have to sit there and come up with creative ideas and aspects behind the features and things I'm trying to create, but now you want me to be a security guy? Well…”
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