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“It's not going to affect you directly. That's the thing.…” — Software Engineering Daily at 35:19

“It's not going to affect you directly. That's the thing. It's like when I look at this, I said, yeah, you know what? Yeah, it's terrifying. Those numbers are terrifying. But here's the thing too, by the way, just quickly, is it's not only are you being affected by it, but if you are being affected by it, how long…”

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