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“We're the ones and zeros, the binary side. Organizations…” — Software Engineering Daily at 42:13

“We're the ones and zeros, the binary side. Organizations, when it comes to the social engineering aspect, you know, that comes down to, you know, we've all taken those courses. You know, are you compliant? You know, Sally sent you an email and sent you a request to say, hey, I need your social security number. Your…”

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