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“And that's the thing is, is that initially when people…” — Software Engineering Daily at 14:23

“And that's the thing is, is that initially when people like have this mess, there's always a way, right? There's always this massive umbrella of what something is. And then inside of that umbrella, then things start to segment and factions start to come about. And like I said, Asians, in my opinion, is the new…”

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