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“By then. So it was hard for her to get a job. Things had…” — True Crime Brewery at 26:33

“By then. So it was hard for her to get a job. Things had passed her by a little bit. A little bit. And her three children were staying with Fred in Virginia. So she left the state, which you can understand if you have to get a job, you might do that. But at the same time, to leave the state where your children are…”

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