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“So that's the story of Piper and of Fred Japlin, whose…” — True Crime Brewery at 1:13:56

“So that's the story of Piper and of Fred Japlin, whose poor children lost him and then their mother as well. Murderers don't think of that stuff, do they? I think most of them think they're going to get away with it, clearly, or they wouldn't do it. Okay. Don't you think so? Absolutely. Someone like her who thought…”

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