“He and his wife Pam and his stepson had decided to go to…” — Crime Junkie at 2:22
“He and his wife Pam and his stepson had decided to go to the shopping center that day for a few reasons. Pam wanted to pick up a hand puppet for their daughter, and his stepson wanted to go for a walk in the woods. Is there like a trail back behind the shopping center? Yeah, there is. So they're basically like…”
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