“Almost all of them were born through surrogates. But those…” — Crime Junkie at 14:22
“Almost all of them were born through surrogates. But those surrogates had been deceived. Me and my co-worker, we named her the surrogate. That's the one time that we called the cops because she was screaming. And then he pulled out a gun. I started crying. I was like, what the heck did I just get myself into? I'm Eva…”
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