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“James doing so many things outside of the home, too I also…” — Crime Junkie at 1:03:29

“James doing so many things outside of the home, too I also want to make it clear that if there was abuse which I think there's evidence of and something that I talked to john about actually in our interview I was like the proof is like it feels like the proof is there but that doesn't mean it has to be a family”

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