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“Yes. Okay. So like I feel like there's an elephant in the…” — Crime Junkie at 35:04

“Yes. Okay. So like I feel like there's an elephant in the room named Charles Fleck. I'd say, I mean, but there's nothing but there's like, this is just worth mentioning, because if you go online and look it up, it's not that I'm ignoring it. There's just nothing to prove”

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