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“grabbing someone like scooped her up and picked her up and…” — Crime Junkie at 42:12

“grabbing someone like scooped her up and picked her up and put her in the tub. Which to me seems way more likely because if her back was acting up and she fell into the back, like how do the rugs get there? It doesn't get explained in an accident. Yeah. Like the rugs from his room”

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