“At one point the summer before, Casey actually called…” — Crime Junkie at 16:46
“At one point the summer before, Casey actually called Lucero up and was talking about how he knew that Maribel wanted to get married and have kids, and he wanted to be the man to give that to her. Oh, so this was like a romantic thing for him. And with Maribel dating Paul, even just casually, she wasn't reciprocating…”
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