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“They just wouldn't hear it. And they wouldn't hear it so…” — Crime Junkie at 42:45

“They just wouldn't hear it. And they wouldn't hear it so much that I even asked for a piece of paper to write it down because I knew that they weren't listening to me. And I thought, like, if I write it down, maybe they'll listen to me. But of course, I have horrible Italian. And so I do my best to explain. I know I…”

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