“I mean, desperate times, I guess. I know. Like, again, if…” — Crime Junkie at 15:36
“I mean, desperate times, I guess. I know. Like, again, if you really feel something in your gut and they're not listening to you, I honestly understand what she did. But then sometimes when you walk that back, how much harm is being done? Is it one step forward and two steps back? Yeah. In this case, though, it seems…”
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