“For instance, in January of 2012, a former girlfriend of…” — Crime Junkie at 31:00
“For instance, in January of 2012, a former girlfriend of Paul's comes forward and tells police that she saw a class ring in his ashtray. She even remembers making a joke, like, you're asking me out on a date, you have another girl's class ring. And allegedly, Matt responded, quote, face it, she's probably dead. Oh my…”
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