“I don't know. So that's the other thing. I don't know how…” — Crime Junkie at 36:32
“I don't know. So that's the other thing. I don't know how high tech the security was again, maybe more than a regular office. But I know that there are no surveillance cameras down where she died down in that water tank area. And they didn't use any key cards or anything to get from”
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