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“fight very hard for consumption being zero, but production…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 40:34

“fight very hard for consumption being zero, but production is never zero. Someone has to pay for it, right? I mean, you know, unless it's just something, whether it's time or money or both. And so we were concerned enough to say, hey, let's have a discussion about that. The main concern, I think, if I understood…”

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