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“Right. So I'm not saying the CNCF is wrong and I'm right.…” — The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source at 41:32

“Right. So I'm not saying the CNCF is wrong and I'm right. I'm just saying we had a differing opinion of what successful projects look like. And, you know, there's some that I've driven in my career that now have been around for 30 plus years. Two of them have been around for 20 plus years. So I kind of get what it…”

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